To all Jalop gun owners

"Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager" (Nighthawkwill7) 08/14/2013 at 19:05 • Filed to: Gunlopnik

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I'm going to apply for my concealed carry weapons permit as soon as I have the money. I handled a PPK/S at a gunshop in Florida before coming back to Puerto Rico and I liked how it felt in my hand, it was also quite a handsome piece. Haven't had the chance to shoot it yet though. I was interested in it because I feel it would be easy to conceal and I feel the .380 acp cartridge will be potent enough as people here in PR tend to dress lightly.

That being said, out of all the handguns I've tried out, the one I shoot the best with is the 1911 Government. The only issue with it would be the size although it is slimmer than the Glock 19 and Sprinfield XD I also fired. What are your opinions on shoulder holsters vs IWB holstersfor a 1911? I wear unbuttoned plaid over shirts like 70% of the time so I think I could get away with it, but I feel the Walther would obviously be more comfortable to carry. Guess I'm caught between a more powerful gun that I am quite comfortable shooting and a more concealable weapon.

Halp

HammerheadFistpunch > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:09

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The 1911 was the easiest for me to shot as well and it wont swib load as often as some others (Karh) but it is a big ol' thing. I don't really need a conceal carry for personal protection here where I live so I got a S&W 38 special long barrel for wilderness protection. I Don't have a conceal carry so holsters aren't something I know a lot about. Sorry for providing literally no help.

Casper > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:11

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Personally I like the Remora IWB ( http://www.remoraholsterstore.com/ ) with my Shield. It works really well with jeans and a belt. Here's an educational (maybe?) video about them that I'm sure you won't mind watching...

desertdog5051 > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:13

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Never owned or shot a PPK. I do own a Colt 1911 (yeah, not an A, this is the original 1911.) A bit bulky to conceal carry. .380 is a good caliber. I'm sure it can do some damage and easier to conceal.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > HammerheadFistpunch 08/14/2013 at 19:13

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Lol no worries. I tend to travel through areas where crime is kind of an issue (vicinity of my home, outlying areas of local malls and university) and I feel like carrying a gun, and receiving additional defensive training would help put the odds in my favor if things ever go south (God forbid).

wacopalypsenow > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:14

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Should holsters are nice...but are you willing to only protect yourself 70% of the time? That is up to you.

Also: A smaller pistols is one you will carry more often. So the underpowered .380 in your holster is more powerful then a .45 in your nightstand. Take it from me, heavy guns (think Hechler & Koch .40) suck to carry.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > desertdog5051 08/14/2013 at 19:18

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Yeah, she's a big ol' thing but she shoots so nice. I know there's a shorter Commander variant with a bobbed pistol grip but those are quite pricey. I've seen PPK's for just under $600 which is still affordable or me and seems better built than other .380's I've seen like the Bersa Thunder.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > wacopalypsenow 08/14/2013 at 19:20

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I'd prefer to carry all the time so I'd probably buy more over shirts if I had to but I know that size and weight will still be an issue, which is why I'm considering the Walther.

Paul, Man of Mustangs > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:20

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Personally I'm not a fan of shoulder holsters, as you must sweep the gun 180 degrees to be on target. An IWB on your hip would be more than adequate. I carry a full-size M&P with a standard holster, and most of my shirts conceal it, although it does "print" fairly heavily on my shirt. A shorter grip will help out with that tremendously, so the compact pistols are preferable. Still, even after about 7 months of carrying, no one has pointed and yelled "GUN!", so I guess just having a shirt over it is enough. Caliber isn't terribly critical unless you expect to run into people strung out on PCP and the like and need a one-shot takedown. Most crims will run at the sight of an armed adversary, or once they've been shot (at). So a .380 ACP should be just fine.

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:22

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I love the PPK. My neighbour has one of them. He's an Alfa Romeo's restoration specialist, so no wonder where he get those thing. So far it's one of the rare guns that fits in my hand, since my hand is kind small. But it's pretty expensive in here..

Casper > wacopalypsenow 08/14/2013 at 19:23

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I agree (although I wouldn't carry a .380), it simply isn't worth having a gun you won't carry... as your carry gun. This is a big consideration people should make.

On a side note: My personal round of choice is 9mm, and one of the selling features of the S&W Shield for me was being able to shoot +P without worry.

Paul, Man of Mustangs > Casper 08/14/2013 at 19:23

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How do you like your Shield? I've been dying to try one, myself. I have a full-size M&P, but it just seems too big for summer carry.

Klaus Schmoll > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:27

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Sorry for being the party pooper here, but what makes you feel that you want to carry that thing around with you. No political shit or something intended here, I'm just curious! I just got my first smart-phone and that thing use huge (if I put it into that nice leather thingy that I bought with it) compared to my old burner. So it's one more thing to carry around, keep track of etc... why add another one. And you sure as hell don't want to accidentally leave it in the crack between the cushions in a cinema or something.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > Paul, Man of Mustangs 08/14/2013 at 19:28

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I don't feel like I need a .45, just found them real comfortable to shoot. I'd prefer something I could holster inside the waistband as I feel it would be more comfortable.

Doesn't S&W make a M&P compact as well?

SaigaShooter - He's got an Impreza > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:30

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I found the Kahr CW9 to work for me. 9mm, striker fired, very slim and fairly short. 7+1 capacity, no external safeties, only a long revolver like trigger pull. No problems so far, but you really do need to run about 150 rounds through it befre carrying. They also offer it in .40 and .45

I carry mine in a FoxX IWB holster. I like FoxX because it has a body shield that keeps you from being poked by the slide/rear sight.

Casper > Paul, Man of Mustangs 08/14/2013 at 19:30

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I personally love it. It's small enough that even with somewhat fitted t-shirts and jeans I can conceal it pretty well (I like to carry pretty deep and don't like printing). It shoots great for me, but I would like a rubberized grip like I have on my Sig, but I haven't found one yet.

My round of preference is 9mm, so I usually carry with the shorter mag (7+1). I can usually do well on vital sized steel out to about 50 yards or less if I take my time. For the most part I only worry about 25 yards, since it is a more realistic distance with that (I go to 100 with the Five-Seven, but even that is better sub 50). It's short enough that in a rush a slight change to grip makes a big difference.

People keep trying to buy it off me when they see it at the range, but so far it's my favorite option. I don't see it going away unless FN makes a CCW version of the Five-Seven... that would make my year.

Paul, Man of Mustangs > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:31

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Yeah, it's got a 12-round mag instead of a 17, and they also have a single-stack version called the Shield, which I think is a 7 or 8 round mag. That's the one I want for concealed carry. Same profile as the M&P Compact, just much narrower.

desertdog5051 > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:33

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Walther has been around a long time and is well known for the quality of their products. You're probably only buying once. Buy the best you can afford and you'll be happy with it 10 years from now.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > Klaus Schmoll 08/14/2013 at 19:35

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With a good holster, a gun would be quite comfortable to carry. Look up Crossbreed Supertuck as an example.

I've actually been shooting for the last couple of years with my uncles but don't have a firearm of my own. The thing is that crime is an issue here in Puerto Rico and the police are becoming increasingly ineffective due to budget cuts and lay offs, plus police corruption. I feel comfortable around guns but I would still pursue additional defensive training to become truly proficient in their use.

Decay buys too many beaters > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:35

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I've found myself able to carry my Glock 21 in a shoulder holster about 75% of the time, but if you want to carry all the time you should definitely consider a smaller carry handgun.

My father carries 100% of the time (exception being federal building and other places where it is expressly not allowed), and his weapon of choice is a Taurus Model 22. He reasons that while the .22LR is not very powerful, he can become far more proficient with that gun due to the low cost of ammunition. Besides, as long as you can reliably hit your target bullet size is pretty meaningless.

Mosqvich > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:36

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I have a Walther PPK. There is a recall on it:

Smith & Wesson has identified a condition that may exist in certain PPK and PPK/S pistols which may permit a round to be discharged without the trigger being pulled. When the manual safety is disengaged, Smith & Wesson’s Product Engineering Group has determined that the possibility exists in certain firearms that lowering the hammer may cause a chambered round to fire.

I found out the hard in 2007 when mine discharged - into my leg - nearly killing me in the process. By the time we learned about the recall, it was too late to sue the manufacturer.

Moral of the story: Keep up on your weapon (i.e. status of recalls etc..), know how to handle it stone cold, and never, ever, ever, ever keep a round in the chamber.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > SaigaShooter - He's got an Impreza 08/14/2013 at 19:39

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I've heard about them but hadn't looked into them. I'll add it to my list of candidates, thanks? That holster looks nice.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > Decay buys too many beaters 08/14/2013 at 19:44

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I would prefer to carry full time which is why I've been looking at smaller pistols. I've fired .22lr before, not a round to be underestimated in my opinion.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > Mosqvich 08/14/2013 at 19:47

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Damn, glad you're okay. At least that means the issue had been identified, no? I've also looked at the Sig Sauer 232 which is a similar gun but with no external safety.

Mosqvich > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:50

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I think the Sig Sauer would be great. Just do solid homework, the life you save could be your own. I'm permanently disabled to be honest. I remember the incident every single day. I'm not against guns. I even still have the PPK, I just don't shoot it. It has "007" in the serial number. Maybe it'll be worth something some day!

SaigaShooter - He's got an Impreza > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:54

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I was trying to add this but kinja kinjad itself.

I personally haven't used a shoulder holster, but the idea of a full size 1911 always under my arm sounds uncomfortable.

I also highly recommend shooting as many of the guns that you are considering as you can. I had thought about carrying a Glock 26 but after experiencing the Safe-Action trigger decided against it based solely on the trigger.

If you might be thinking a full size 1911 will be too hard to conceal, there are other variants of the 1911 platform that are shorter, and thus lighter. My father carries a Sig Sauer 1911 Compact Nitron, still a bit wide for my taste, but it still has the feel of a 1911 and shoots well. also, if you can asses the width of the weapon you are considering. Small bulges are less noticeable than big ones.

Kahr CW9 left, Glock G19 right

Anon > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:54

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I know that s&w makes a 38. Special hammerless compact revolver that holds 6 rounds. I much more prefer a revolver to a semi auto mainly due to reliability.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > Mosqvich 08/14/2013 at 19:55

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Thanks for all the advice. :) maybe it will.

SteyrTMP > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:56

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As long as it's 10mm, I'd say go for the 1911... two of these are my carry guns, on a crossdraw Galco rig. The "oh, shit" factor is pretty with those.

Klaus Schmoll > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 19:58

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A friend of mine just spent his holydays in Puerto Rico. He's a journalist so he was doing a Hunter S. Thompson "The Rum Diaries" rehearsal. He loved the place.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > Anon 08/14/2013 at 20:02

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I looked on their site but I couldn't find one. All where five shooters. Have you ever fired the Ruger LCR? I saw one at the shop I went to but didn't ask to see it.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > SteyrTMP 08/14/2013 at 20:05

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That loos properly menacing. 10mm has always intrigued me but it seems kinda rare compared to other calipers.

wilsel > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 20:09

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I would suggest getting the smaller gun. My first gun was a Smith & Wesson SW40VE. Nice gun, but I found myself not caryying it because of its weight. A gun is useless unless its within reach. So I bought a Beretta Tomcat that I carry, the S&W stays in the house.

Crocket Bernet > Mosqvich 08/14/2013 at 20:12

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Damn, glad you made it through that.

Mosqvich > Crocket Bernet 08/14/2013 at 20:13

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Me too :-)

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > SaigaShooter - He's got an Impreza 08/14/2013 at 20:23

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I've fired the Glock 19, Springfield XD in 9mm, the 1911 I fired was a Sprinfield MC Operator and I also fired a S&W 686 Plus with a 4" barrel.

One of my uncles carries a Ruger LC9 which he dubbed Sparky, lol. Says it's pretty good for a small gun as it is 9mm like the Kahr.

Anon > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 20:27

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I haven't fired one, however I really like rugers! I have a 44. mag super red hawk and it's a wonderful gun! Well balanced, nicely weighted, and pretty accurate! However when it comes to revolvers though I prefer smith and wesson, though that's more personal preference than anything else. I'm too young to conceal carry (19) however my favorite gun is my old 70's Smith and Wesson 22. It's a massive thing and you would think it was a 44, if you didn't look at the size of the barrel. But there are probably rifles less accurate than that gun. Also if you're looking for a semi auto I always recommend a glock because of their absurd reliability.

Anon > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 20:31

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http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/sto…

Also here's a link to that revolver I was talking about earlier.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > Anon 08/14/2013 at 20:32

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I like Smith & Wesson as well. I've fired the 686 plus and I loved it. I'm also lusting after a Model 29 with the 6.5 inch barrel but that's more for recreational use/home defense lol.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > Anon 08/14/2013 at 20:35

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That's the one I thought meant initially but I read 6 shot.

MountainCommand > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 20:36

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I commend you for your choice to exercise your 2a right! Its something we may take for granted. We cant get ccwp in jersey.

You are in the same boat as many other ccw holders. There are endless discussions about everything you just asked, and no one has a real answer. It varies so much. But some things stay true. Practice. Practice. and more practice. Try as much as you can to consistently be shooting whatever firearm you choose. Its basic, for sure, but being proficient in handling is something every ccw holder has to be.

Beyond that. Things to consider are the round caliber. Capacity. (more rounds is most always better, id prefer to have 15 over 7...) Weight. size. and pretty much all the other obvious things you know about already.

Also, keep in mind: parts support for your gun, accessory support and ammo availability.

Holsters are tricky. again its a preference. But its important to find a draw style that is effective for your needs. What works best, and reliably.

But you wont really know how well it will work for you until you actually start carrying. Only then will you find the ups and downs to the firearm you chose.

But you can think of it this way. You are carrying. Youre already miles ahead of the people who are not. You have a tool that could possibly save and protect yourself, and or others.

Again, i envy you for being able to do what youre doing. Someday when i move to a different state, ill be able to join you and many others.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 20:38

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If I were doing carry, I'd probably go with a short-barrel (officer) 1911 before experience taught me it was impractical, at which point, hey, I'd have a 1911 in the collection. "Whoops".

In replacement, not really sure. I don't like the feel of Berettas, and Glock subcompacts seem to require me to hold them in what I feel is an unnatural position (though it works quite well). Would try a Five-Seven, but goofy ammo. On reflection, I'd probably end up with a DAO revolver snub, though I'm not sure whether I'd grow to like it.

Anon > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 20:48

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Oh my bad! It's my dad's and the ammo's expensive so I don't really use it too much.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 08/14/2013 at 20:50

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I like revolvers but I just find semi autos to be thinner which aids concealability.

MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 20:55

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A 1911 is WAY too big to even try and conceal. I have a Glock 26 and even that is a bit bulky. My buddy has a Ruger .380 super mini and it is so tiny you could just have it in your pocket with no problems at all.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > MountainCommand 08/14/2013 at 20:59

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I feel your pain. Puerto Rico isn't the most gun friendly place in America but it could be worse. Getting the ccwp here in PR isn't cheap at $1000 but my life is worth way more to me. I'm leaning towards the smaller gun although I saw that Walther makes a compact 9mm called the PPQ which is similar in size to a Glock 19.

I believe that a right not exercised is a right lost, which is why I don't take my 2nd ammendment right for granted.

SteyrTMP > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 21:02

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You'd be surprised. Places like Dick's used to carry it, when they still had ammo. Hardware stores carried it too. Me, I reload it, so I havent looked lately. It's typically around the same price as .40S&W, whics was derived from 10.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > SteyrTMP 08/14/2013 at 21:06

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What make is your 1911? I've seen 10mm at the Bass Pro Shop and at smaller stores but just not in large quantities.

SteyrTMP > SteyrTMP 08/14/2013 at 21:08

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I'd look into AMT pistols. They made carry 1911s. I have a AMT Automag II for an ankle holster... .22WMR, with 3 3/8" barrel, on a 1911 derived pistol, but smaller. The 10mm longslides are AMT too. The only problem is some of the later AMTs are a little rough around the edges. Have you looked into the Steyr M and S series? or, if you have the cash, the HK USP Compact is king.

http://www.hk-usa.com/civilian_produ…

http://www.steyrarms.com/products/sport…

SteyrTMP > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 21:14

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AMT Javelinas. The 10mm variant of the AMT Hardballer. Both came in long and standard size. The one in the picture has a Caspian race frame, whereas the other is bone stock, other than the custom Dokter Optics mount i made.

ASheep > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 21:19

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I've only shot at the range (Concealed Carry is illegal in Australia), but in my experience a 1911 sized handgun would be too big for everyday carry. That kind of load on your waistband would get really tiring after a while. I'd much prefer a compact revolver or PPK, or something like the Kahr PM9. In my experience (again limited) holster carrying, go for the slimmest possible handgun if you want something comfortable.

There are days where I wish I could carry my S&W 686 though...

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > ASheep 08/14/2013 at 21:24

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That's my reasoning as well. I'd only carry a 1911 in a shoulder holster. This one also caught my eye, the Walther PPQ in 9mm.

ASheep > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 21:49

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The PPQ is a VERY nice pistol. One of my friends has one, shoots IPSC comps with it. Only problem is collecting brass to reload, it slings them EVERYWHERE!

MountainCommand > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 21:54

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I did some quick googling, and you guys just had the courts rule pro 2a a few years back (correct me if im wrong). Which is awesome! However, it should have never even been a question that it is a right, not a privilege to bear arms.

I would pay a pretty good sum to get a ccw permit. Just let us exercise our right! Currently a case in in the NJ supreme court (highest court in nj) is possibly going to either close the door for good, or it could open it for ccwp. However, the courts here have pretty much ruled that nothing is a 'justifiable need' for a permit. Its not looking good.

My preference to a carry weapon would be for the firearm to have a similar function to most Sig models (p226 for example). Being able to chamber one round, then decock the hammer, but be able to squeeze off that chambered round when drawn thanks to dual action. I feel safer knowing the weapon is 'safe', yet can be fired at the pull of a trigger. Glocks, simply a trigger safety is not enough to sway me into using one as a cc.

I wish you luck in your endevor. Try and find some classes too. They will be of great use! Keep us updated on what you choose!

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > MountainCommand 08/14/2013 at 22:26

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You need to get the hell out of NJ! I'll keep Oppo posted on what I end up with, although I still need to save up the money for both the gun and the permit.

I forgot to mention this other piece, the PPQ in 9mm.

MountainCommand > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/14/2013 at 22:33

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once im done with college. should be 2 years. Ill get out of here as fast as i can. But moving is always easier said than done...

Make sure you get to hold some of the possible pistols. Ive held either that exact one, or something very similar (walther makes a few very similar handguns with different names) and wasnt particularly fond of the grip ergonomics. i dont like those style mag releases either.

Btw, Can you get the gun first (so you have it and can learn and practice with it)? Or do you need to the permit to even purchase a handgun?

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > MountainCommand 08/14/2013 at 22:42

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Permit first, then I can purchase the gun. There is a Mk2 PPQ out now with a traditional mag release. I have kinda small hands and these grips look way more ergonomic than the blockiness of the Glocks I've fired. Heard good things about the trigger as well.

LAbornTXraised > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/15/2013 at 01:22

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Which gun is entirely up to you. I know people that have concealed government 1911s their whole life. They don't even own midsize or smaller. Its all about dressing around the gun. Check out crossbreed holsters. It doesn't get much deeper concealed than that.

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/15/2013 at 09:33

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I carry a Springfield XD-S in .45 using a Crossbreed Supertuck IWB holster. For me this works just fine and I carry it most every day. I started with a Ruger LCP (.380) in a Galco Tuck'n'Go, but that gun was difficult for me to shoot. Surprisingly the XDS is much easier to shoot than the LCP even though it is a much bigger round and a not much bigger gun. Here is a pic of my setup. This conceals very well even under a tee shirt, and is pretty comfortable for me.

As for a shoulder rig, I don't have any personal experience with that. But you do need to either do some strange motions to get the gun from the holster and pointed forward safely (without pointing the muzzle at things you don't want to shoot) or you have to be OK with pointing the muzzle at things you don't want to shoot. Even when in the holster, the muzzle is pointed at things and people that you don't want to shoot. With an IWB holster the barrel is pointed safely at the ground while carrying and it is a direct motion to go from muzzle down to muzzle pointed at threat.

Here is a video talking about different types of holsters and concealed carry DON'Ts. Everything here is opinion, but there is some good info and he brings up some points to consider when you carry.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > LAbornTXraised 08/15/2013 at 09:42

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I've heard about those, I'll check 'em out!

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much 08/15/2013 at 09:49

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Thanks for the suggestion and info, I'll add that one to my list of guns to look at.

ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR > SteyrTMP 08/15/2013 at 10:07

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I have fired a desert eagle before. You fire three shots and you are aiming at the ceiling. I had to modify my stance to compensate for the recoil. And I am 6'4'' and 230lbs.

So the scene in the matrix where an agent is driving on the highway and firing a desert eagle like its no big deal. I always laugh at.

corvairsomeday2 > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/15/2013 at 12:33

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Lots of good advice here.

One note about your body type. If you're really slender like me, you'll have more trouble concealing than if you had a little extra around your waist. I have to tuck a subcompact (Glock 27) at the 4:00 position inside my waist for it to not print too badly. A buddy of mine can put a full-size 1911 inside his waist right at 3:00 with no trouble, but he's heavier.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > corvairsomeday2 08/15/2013 at 12:37

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I'm slightly husky at 5'6", 195lbs so I might be able to conceal a bigger weapon for now.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > Mosqvich 08/15/2013 at 15:30

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I looked up more info on the recall and it was for PPK's manufactured between March 21, 2002 and February 3, 2009.

SteyrTMP > ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR 08/15/2013 at 22:12

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I dunno... I've had two Desert Eagles in the past. The one was .44 Mag, the other .50AE... Neither was that impressive. Very finicky about ammunition, and if you limp-wrist it, it won't cycle.

Autophile412 - what's the world got in store? > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager 08/29/2013 at 15:59

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I carry a HK USP compact .40 cal. The only downfall of the 1911 is that they are very sensitive to environmental change (ie getting wet or dirty) and they will jam more so than an HK or Glock. They look pretty and they are nice range weapons but I wouldn't carry one.

I carry IWB and I love my HK. I would carry a glock 22 but I have a kid and the added safety and heavy first pull of the DA/SA trigger are two features that the glock lacks.

IMHO go with something in the Glock family like a 26 if you want compact or a 19 if you want a nice reliable modular platform.

If you want to spend a wallet full go with an HK. Hands down it is the best sidearm I own and have owned.

I used to carry a Sig Sauer P239 .40 and I loved that weapon as well. Shoots like butter and conceals well.

Any way you go just make sure you practice discipline and judicious marksmanship.

Good luck.